Controversial in the same proportion as his brilliance Athalwolf, leader of Wolfnacht, gets stronger with each album released, proving to be a mainstay of nsbm today. With the recent release of the Wolfnacht\Goatmoon\Thy Serpent split and with two new albums on the horizon we at Black Metal Terror have contacted the mentor of this Greek colossus for a chat…
Q: Tell us a little more about the recently released Wolfnacht\Goatmoon\Thy Serpent split. How did this idea come about?
A: The initial idea was brought on the table by Sami of Thy Serpent. I myself asked Blackgoat to join as well, as I knew he had some tracks ready.
While I ‘ve never been a big fan of doing split releases for a number of reasons, it turned out really good and it was an honour to combine forces with these 2 great friends that have my outmost respect and support.
Q: The reinterpretation of the tracks ““Ein Dämonischer Winter verhüllt den Schattenturm…” and “Licht des Sieges” were sensational. What led you to re-record these tracks? Have you ever considered re-recording any other Wolfnacht songs? Any tracks from the demos maybe? A best of ?
A: One day I woke up with the melody of “Ein Dämonischer Winter…” playing on repeat inside my head. I went to the keyboard and tried to recreate those old sounds, just for the sake of it. It didn’t take long until I came up with the idea of re-recording the whole track.
After that, the remake of “Licht des Sieges” was a natural sequence, as those two tracks have always been my favourites from the debut album and deserved a better treatment in terms of both performance and sound.
Of course I have considered re-recording other old tracks, like “Night of the Werewolf” or “Die juden sind unser Unglück” for example. It may happen one day, depending on whether I am into the right mood for such a mission.
Q: Recently the label Dunkel Bunker announced two new Wolfnacht releases coming soon and both left me intrigued. The first “Blutgebunden” appears to have been composed initially as neoclassical music and later re-arranged as Black Metal. Tell us a little more about how this album was conceived and composed.
A: The “Blutgebunden” tracks for the most part started as purely Neoclassical arrangements with the Black Metal structure being added later upon that foundation. This composing technique is not something new to Wolfnacht but it is the first time that I use it to such extent. As a composer I always like to experiment with different methods of creating music, especially unorthodox ones. For example, during the last years I avoid composing music with the help of instruments; instead, I conceive most melodies simply by humming or whistling and imagining the harmonic progression in my head. This technique has the great advantage that you can compose music in any possible location, like while hiking in Nature or while sitting in total dark.
Q: Is there any possibility that the original neoclassical versions of “Blutgebunden” will be released someday?
A: I had in mind to share some of the Neoclassical arrangements of “Blutgebunden” but due to a very unfortunate technical catastrophe all the unmixed audio data was destroyed, leaving me just with the mastered result of both new albums.
Q: Moving on to “Soldatenlieder”, this second album will be non metal and will consist of 12 military marches, 10 German marches and 2 that you composed yourself, correct?
Tell us a little more about the influences of this type of music on Wolfnacht’s sound and what we’ll find on this album.
A: “Soldatenlieder” was a vision of mine for at least a decade. I just waited until I had the required know-how (from a technical standpoint) to perform everything the way I had imagined it and achieve a very high quality result.
Included you will find my own takes on famous German Marches like “SS marschiert in Feindesland”, “Siehst du im Osten das Morgenrot?”, “Es war ein Edelweiß”, “Die Fahne Hoch!” and many others, plus 2 Marches composed by me.
Marching music was the reason I decided to learn music in the first place when I witnessed a performance of my local marching band, at the age of 5. I was so deeply fascinated by all the brass and percussion instruments that I immediately announced to my parents that I wanted to learn music; so they got me a Walkman together with a few Classical music tapes (Chopin, Beethoven, Dvořák and Brahms) and a small casio keyboard; thus started my adventure into the immense world of music. Later, when I started getting into the N.S. Ideology I begun listening to German Marching music on a regular basis, a fact that influenced my music creations to a certain extent. It’s also worth noting that one of my professions is being a Classical music teacher. So, I guess it’s quite obvious why both Marching and Classical music are an inextricable part of Wolfnacht.
Q: About this partnership with this new label Dunkel Bunker, how did it happen?
A: It just did.
Q: Last year, after eight years of silence, your other band Zofos released the great album “Erevothen” which musically is probably the most complex work you’ve ever done and whose production was excellent, do you agree? Tell us more about this release and how would you describe it to someone who only knows Wolfnacht?
A: You are right. “Erevothen” was definitely the most technically challenging work I have created to that point. The production was good but not excellent. Excellence as a concept is pretty much like chasing the impossible. Still, I am always trying to come as close to it as possible with every release, obsessing over the tiniest details that no one will ever notice or care about (but I do).
If I had to describe “Erevothen” I would say it’s an amalgam of Hellenic Black Metal with atmospheric and Heavy Metal elements, based upon the concept story of a man entering the mysterious Hellenic Netherworld.
Q: How important is this project (Zofos) to you as a form of expression both musically and lyrically?
A: ZOFOS has always had its own special place inside my soul. In contrast to Wolfnacht, here you won’t find any straightforward Ideological references as ZOFOS deals with Ancient Hellenic/European Paganism, Nature worship and Philosophy; the relationship of the Ancient Societies with their Gods, Traditions and Mysteries; the Metaphysical Side of the European Nature and Lore.
I already have some pretty interesting ideas concerning the path I am going to explore next with ZOFOS (both lyrically and musically) and this time it won’t take another 14 years for the next album, that’s for sure.
Q: The announcement of the split Wolfnacht\Goatmoon\Thy Serpent took a lot of people by surprise mainly because of the name Thy Serpent being among the bands. A few months ago I saw the same thing happen when some people got to know that Set Teitan, a musician who has played in bands like Watain and Dissection, made a cameo in the Mcd “Grabgesang” by the band Absurd. In your opinion, this involvement of traditional Black Metal musicians with NSBM is something that always happened but the musicians did not comment fearing reprisals and “cancellations” or is it something that always happened but the more “sensitive” public was self-deceived (and still deceives) and chose not to recognize?
A: For anyone familiar with the Finnish BM scene the inclusion of Thy Serpent shouldn’t be a surprise by any means.
I am not really aware of the other cooperation you mention; watain is a band I have never listened to (and not planning to change that) while dissection hasn’t been in my CD player for something like 25 years so I have no idea who Set Teitan is.
Any musician fearing of being “cancelled” by a bunch of pitiful losers should keep away from NSBM and stick to the Wacken “BM” bands where everything is super safe, inclusive and fun and no metalbro gets his feelings hurt.
Q: In fact I personally know several bands and individuals who listen and enjoy NSBM secretly, not revealing this fact probably because they are afraid of this “cancel culture”. Is this hypocritical need for people’s approval and fear of the opinion of others a current reflection of a society that is more concerned with “packaging” than with “content”? How do you see this situation and in your opinion what would be the solution to this problem and what should we expect from the next generations?
A: I have already found the solution to these problems by not caring for any of this at all. I know for a fact that people listen to Wolfnacht and other NSBM bands secretly in order to avoid being characterised as “Nazis” by the antifa mob and, while I find this stance a bit pathetic, I can understand that some people are afraid of losing their jobs or don’t want their families being targeted by these mentally-ill pussies; it may sound far-fetched but stuff like that has happened to people because of their “sketchy affiliations”.
Political correctness and “wokeness” have taken tremendous proportions during the last decade and it’s getting more and more out of control by the day. At least people are finally getting fed up having to apologise to a minority of drug-addicted retards and obese feminists for what music they will listen to, what food they will eat and what person they will say hello to.
This insanity is mathematically doomed to extinct at some point. Let’s hope it will be soon because it has become really tiring.
Q: What is your opinion about the current trend of Extreme Metal and especially Black Metal becoming politically correct and “sensitive”? What do you think caused this? Can NSBM be considered a reaction to this “softening” of Black Metal?
A: NSBM has always been entrepreneurial and revolutionary and by no means a reactive genre. It’s abominations like rabm that are serving solely as a reaction/substitute to “sketchy” BM. What would antifascists be without the “fascists” anyway? NSBM has been around for more than 25 years and still exists despite the polemic, the censorship, the cancel culture and the exclusion from every possible platform.
The people behind these politically correct “BM” bands are either outsiders coming from other scenes like hardcore/crust punk or are just trying to play the good guys in order to sell their merch to teenage sjws and avoid getting their boring shows cancelled. What they all have in common is that they are unable to understand the Philosophy behind BM and how antithetical it is to their “safespace” hippie version of it.
Q: A lot of bands into BM\NSBM experienced events being distorted in the name of an unrealistic sensationalism that “sells” better than the truth itself. With that in mind I ask you, what credibility do the media really have and are it possible to have an impartial truth these days?
A: When hearing the word “media” I spontaneously think of lies, alteration and manipulation of events in order to serve the current narrative.
Yet, I cannot recall when was the last time the media targeted a NSBM band so I cannot comment on that. I’m sure it has happened but I don’t pay enough attention to such things.
Q: We are currently seeing a great increase in the polarization of political opinions in a world that paradoxically allows more free access to knowledge but gives more and more voice to idiots. Do you believe that the future tends to be something optimistic or are we doomed?
A: The internet and especially the social media gave an extremely loud voice to human failures that in a normal world would be embarrassed to even walk outside their basements, let alone expressing their political opinions. Combine that with the “democratic” system that makes the opinion of such losers equal to mine or yours and you end up with today’s kakistocracy (the opposite of Aristocracy) in no time.
While I consider myself a realist, I am leaning a bit to the pessimist side, as being optimist in this ridiculous age is a sure way to major disappointment and frustration. That being said, I only believe that radical changes do come only after a War; something that is unavoidable of course. Whether our societies become better or worse after that purely depends on who’s the winner.
Q: Talking a little about the Greek NSBM scene that always seemed to be something very strong, how is it currently?
A: Maybe it was strong before 15-20 years when NSBM had become a trend for a little while. Nowadays it is almost non-existent. Being connected to anything remotely NS these days can be enough to close every door for a band or even have an impact on the actual lives of its members. It comes as no surprise that very few people are willing to take that road anymore.
Q: Talking about new bands (not only in Greece), is there any new name you would recommend for us?
A: I am a person that mostly lives in the past, in numerous aspects of my life. That applies to my listening habits as well. I prefer listening to the same old records over and over again rather than checking out whatever new stuff is constantly released. I am sure there are new bands worthy of support but I am not really up to date on that matter.
Q: If it were your last night on Earth and you had to leave an alert and a truth to guide the youth, What last words would you like to echo in eternity??
A: If I had only a few hours left in this decaying world I would make sure to take some action instead of leaving a worthless note. Deeds speak louder than a thousand words.